I’m still waking up here, working on my first cup of coffee. But a few observations about last night’s debate: President Obama was definitely the clear winner, hands down. Mitt Romney’s answers to most of the questions was to just restate the question and then go on long diatribes blaming Obama for the problem presented in the question. He never actually provided his solution to most questions. When he did, his statements were riddled with obvious factual errors and lies. Romney’s lack of substance and prevaricating was far more obvious this time than last, in my opinion.
Right out of the box Romney tried to bulldoze over Candy Crowley, arguing with her, talking over her, and demanding to use more than his allotted amount of time. He even argued about which question he was supposed to answer. He looked like an ass. Obama did a little bit of this too and he shouldn’t have, but Romney was by far the entitled Daddy Warbucks in the room, demanding that the help seat him at his regular table right now, dammit! Don’t you people know who I am? That’s how Romney came off.
From the get-go, Romney decided to chuck all of the agreed-upon rules out the window. It’s a real turnoff when anyone does it, but Romney came off as a bully, and he played right into Obama’s argument that Romney and his buddies want to play by a different set of rules. As Chris Matthews so beautifully observed after it was all over, “Mitt Romney is the guy on the plane who won’t turn off his phone.” It’s true. He’s the guy who doesn’t think the rules apply to him. We all know that guy, he’s the asshole customer you hate to have in your section, the unreasonable client who spends every meeting belittling you. Yeah, we all know that guy and we all hate him.
Romney floundered and flailed when asked such simple questions as, what would you do to fix the gender pay gap? Romney’s non-response was to talk about how as governor he asked his staff to find women for his cabinet — and within minutes, “Binders Full Of Women” was on Tumblr.
But hands-down my favorite moment was when Romney was asked how he’s different from George W. Bush. Romney completely ignored that question and whined to Crowley about how he didn’t get a chance to address something about China from two questions ago. It was hilarious, and it opened the door to Obama’s response that at least George W. Bush didn’t want to turn Medicare into a voucher system or try to get immigrants to “self-deport.” It was hilarious because as we all know, there is no difference between Romney and Bush. Romney’s advisors are all straight out of the Bush Administration. Romney and Ryan have not articulated any idea that is in any way different from what the Bush Administration advocated: tax cuts and deregulation. It’s been the Republican Party mantra for decades. It’s all they’ve got, it’s the same ol’ shit, repackaged. It failed, and we all know it. Republicans need new ideas but they’re incapable of generating any, since their think tanks and idea factories are simply disguised propaganda mills.
Basically, Romney is a big phony, and last night he looked it.
Wow…we must have been watching two totally different debates. My take was it was a tie at best. Obama may have won on “style”, but his answers still lack substance.
He never gave his plan details, but only attacked Romney’s plan…which at least he has one. Now whether it is a good one or not, it is still at least a plan.
One underlying question, which no one has answered yet is: if Obama is re-elected and the economy does not turn around, who will he blame for the failure? Himself, or will it still be Bush’s fault?
Yeah we obviously watched totally different debates because Romney never did more than mention his “five point plan” which as we all know is a figment of his imagination.
Romney has no plan. What were you watching, because I was watching the debate where Romney was trying to say that it took Obama 14 days to say it was and act of terror, and both President AND moderator said it was the NEXT day. Romney was the one that skirted the issues, and took every opportunity to try and discredit Obama based on sound bites and supposition, whereas Obama called him out on his bullshit. The only plan Romney has is to say “fuck off” to the 47% he cares NOTHING about, but to also say that he cares for 100% of this country. His math does not add up.
All Romney did was blame Obama for whatever problem the question addressed and then say, “I’m going to change that.” How, we have no clue. He says he’s going to create 12 million new jobs and then turns around and says government can’t create jobs. You can’t have it both ways. He said he’d let women off work at 5:00 to go home and cook dinner, but the question was about the gender pay inequality.
Really, the look on Ann Romney’s face at the end said it all.
He never gave his plan details, but only attacked Romney’s plan…
O RLY? Let’s go to the transcript, shall we?
“Number one, I want to build manufacturing jobs in this country again.”
[snip]
“Number two, we’ve got to make sure that we have the best education system in the world.”
[snip]
“Number three, we’ve got to control our own energy.”
[snip]
“We’ve got to reduce our deficit, but we’ve got to do it in a balanced way. Asking the wealthy to pay a little bit more along with cuts so that we can invest in education like yours.
“And let’s take the money that we’ve been spending on war over the last decade to rebuild America, roads, bridges schools. We do those things, not only is your future going to be bright but America’s future is going to bright as well.”
You probably shouldn’t try to flat-out lie when these things are so easily found on the internet these days.
“And let’s take the money that we’ve been spending on war over the last decade to rebuild America, roads, bridges schools. We do those things, not only is your future going to be bright but America’s future is going to bright as well.”
The money spent on the wars was borrowed money. If we had the money to spend we wouldn’t have had to borrow it. So how can you take borrowed money you already spent and spend it on something else.
Maybe you shouldn’t regurgitate talking points so easily
Yeah, Jim, BushCorp got us embroiled in 2 wars and borrowed the money to finance it. Your right-wingnut friends want us to go to war with Iran, too.
Mittmoroni has the charisma of mortuary slab.
The first header I saw that talked about it on the intertoobz said that Mr. Obama won this one, but it doesn’t matter beause he lost the first one.
Look for teh Mittunswillard to show up in white robes with a red cross emblazoned on his chasuble (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chasuble) and a snappy pennon on pike that reads:
“Huic subcribo nos leverage , tristifico per debitum quod decoctor.”*
Or
“EGO bought , EGO praeda , EGO decoctor.”.*
What I’d really like to see is Mittmoroni debating John Cleese, just to hear Cleese calling him a “malodorous, toffee-nosed pervert.”.
* “In this sign, we leverage, saddle with debt and bankrupt.”.
** “I bought, I plundered, I bankrupted.”.
Romney is the kind of guy who feels he is entitled. He has never known what it is like to eat noodles, tuna fish and government cheese to survive. He has no clue how the 99% live. He is a bully with little respect except for those of his tribe who have money and entitlement due to money. He has no clue about people, their motivations and needs within his own community of North America much less European, Asian and other communities. Like many Republicans, he is a close minded, loud bully and it makes me nauseated to listen to him speak.
Oh, but Beale,, there is a big difference between Romney and Bush. Bush was only 60% Communist… Romney is 99.44%.
I voted for Bush. Twice. Will never vote for Romney.
Gary Johnson 2012.
Romney is communist …. ????
Okie dokie.
{ makes crazy sign by ear … backs away slowly …. }
From Webster’s dictionary (definition of Communism): “A political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs”
Sounds exactly like what the man did in Massachusetts. It is slightly different than Socialism, but only in basic mechanics of how to get there and stay there. The end result for We the People would be virtually indistinguishable.
Come on, Usagi. Did Romney nationalize (or do the state version of nationalizing) any private industries or private property? Did he take over all the privately owned financial services or tech industries and make them Massachusetts State industries?
Don’t be ridiculous. Romney isn’t a Communist. He’s an Industrialist. A Plutocrat. A Robber Baron. A Communist? No way.
“Did Romney nationalize (or do the state version of nationalizing) any private industries or private property?”
Romneycare.
BAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!1
Yeah – forcing people to sign up for private health insurance with for-profit insurance companies is soooooooooooooo Communist…
(this is snark, just in case you don’t know the difference)
“Sounds exactly like what the man did in Massachusetts.”
Wow. Do you dress yourself and make your own decisions about meals? Holy fuck.
I haven’t been in MA in the last 21 months but when I was last there (several years after Mittmoroni left Beacon Hill and began his public quest for the WH) all of the businesses were still administered by the same people who, incidentally, got to keep the profits generated by them, less the egregious tax burdens imposed by that socialist enclave*.
Having lived in numerous cities and towns in both MA and NH from 1973 to 2005 what I noticed was that everyone in both states paid the highest taxes in the U.S. and got the least in return from the despised federal gummint. Of course when the blizzards or hurricanes hit or when there was some need of a new 2B water treatment facility in Boston Harbor or a $15B depressed central artery to replace the old Southeast Expwy in Boston, a do-over for Manchester NH’s old military airfield into a nice little regional airport, a do-over of Pease AFB in Portsmouth, NH into a regional airport, industrial park AND free trade zone and a fuckton of other infrastructure projects–they liked ‘em some magic money from hebbin.
TN, btw, is one of the lower paying states in terms of in-state tax burden. It is nice for them that they receive $1.27 for each $1.00 they send to the great white father. Who sez that gummint can’t make money.
* You might want to read this: http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/docs/sl_burdens_byyear_1977-2009-20110223.swf
The most important word used byour President against his ‘opponent’ was OFFENSIVE. We know Barack Obama wanted to say much more…about all the lies about his birth, his religion, his family members being lied about (wife and daughters, MOTHER and GRANDMOTHER), in film, (2016), in books, etc. But the man has too much class to climb in the gutter with Romney. And his words in total support of WOMEN and GIRLS and our rights to accessible Birth Control, our Right to decide ANY medical decisions, and his Statement that government should support laws that provide EQUAL access to pay, medical care, education…for ALL. All Bishop Romney could do was stand there, lie, and smirk. And there is a book coming out soon that contains true stories of how he mistreated some Mormon women in ‘his State’. But our President was ready this time to confront ALL the lies, and he was a huge success…as he will be next time!